Okay...
So, regarding the whole "Open Source Boobs" Thing...
Oh, dear...
Okay. Pretty much everything that ticks me off about this has been brought up.
The bit about how it's breasts, and therefore specific to women being touched.
The bit about how TheFerrett is assuming that clothing choice = asking for it.
The bit about the assumption/declaration that anyone who said 'no' Didn't Get It and was unenlightened or whatever.
The bit about how this whole business totally plays up to Male Privilege.
The bit about... Oh, hell, I'll just link you to Commodorified's post, and you can follow the links from there.
As for myself, I am a tad torn on the idea.
See. As presented? I hate it. Categorically. It's loathsome. For all the reasons that have been mentioned above.
At the same time, I like the idea of being more open to touching and being touched.
In a situation where I am actually safe, this can be lovely and wonderful. (Witness: The massages that get traded around at birthday parties, the way I hold hands with my friends when we talk about Intense Stuff, the way I used to Sprawl About with my high school friends, etc).
However a Con full of strangers is not such a place. Especially when said strangers are pestering me for gropes. :-P
As someone who finds women beautiful/sexy/attractive/lovely/physically-desirable, I totally understand the "Mmmmm... Boooooooobiiiiiiiies" thing.
However, as a woman I also totally understand the "Get the fuck away from me, you creep(s)! For the forty-sixth time, I am not interested!" thing. Possibly better. :-P
Additionally, I am someone who is struggling to reconcile her feelings of "I don't deserve to be treated like cattle, and dammit, I shouldn't have to put up with these presumptions", with her feelings of "I like being admired, it's flattering and I feel empowered when I find myself able to deal with cat-calls and come-ons in ways that leave me feeling strong, beautiful and in-control, rather thank like a victim or a jerk".
As such, part of me really likes this idea of women being sexual agents / owning their sexual agency.
Unfortunately, that's not (by the looks of things) what's going on here.
Were a woman to come up to, say, me and offer - as in "Hey. Would you like to touch my breasts? 'Cause I'd enjoy it, if you did." - well, okay, this is me, so I'd probably want to sit down with her and pick her brain about why she made the offer in the first place and get to know her a little bit[1], but: What I'm getting at is that it wouldn't bother me.
It might shock the hell out of me, since we are - as a gender - taught on many levels not to be sexual initiators (I started out writing that as 'sexually active' - as opposed to passive - but, while it still came out accurate, it didn't come out right...), but it wouldn't squick me the way this thing is squicking me.
This is, I think, where the buttons thing comes in.
See, the idea that "red" means "stay away" and "green" means "you don't even have to ask, just go ahead", and that "no button" means "ask, but I might not say 'yes'," bothers me a great deal.
Because of this:
This particular coding system forces (stay with me, now) everyone (by which I mean every woman) to participate in the exercise, whether she wants to or not, purely by virtue of the fact that it's going on around her[2].
There is no "non-participatory" status in this game.
If you choose to not wear a button, you're presumed to be fair game for harassment, and if you choose to wear a red button, you're Participating and, as such (in a way?) tacitly supporting, the exercise as a whole.
This is a fucking problem.
A proposed alternative:
People who are wearing green buttons - regardless of sex/gender - may becruised approached and asked if they would like to grope and/or be groped. Anyone not wearing a green button is not playing the game and must, therefore, not be approached in such a manner.
As such, a green-button-wearing individual could approach another green-button-wearing individual and say "I note that you're wearing a green button. Would you mind if I touched your ______________?" or, similarly, "I note that you're wearing a green button. Would you like to touch my _______________?"
And if the answer was "no", the rules of the game would require the asker (regardless of sex/gender, and regardless of what was being asked) to fuck the hell off.
And everyone else would be left alone.
A game where the players are specifically identified (like LARP?) is significantly better than one where the players don't have a choice in whether or not they're playing, may not know the rules, and may not even know the game is going on until someone explains why they've been getting all of this seriously unwanted and off-putting attention.
Wouldn't you agree?
- Still Pissed Off
- Amazon.
[1] Does that make me weird? Or Unenlightened? ;-)
[2] Gee. Kinda like fucking society, isn't it? :-P
So, regarding the whole "Open Source Boobs" Thing...
Oh, dear...
Okay. Pretty much everything that ticks me off about this has been brought up.
The bit about how it's breasts, and therefore specific to women being touched.
The bit about how TheFerrett is assuming that clothing choice = asking for it.
The bit about the assumption/declaration that anyone who said 'no' Didn't Get It and was unenlightened or whatever.
The bit about how this whole business totally plays up to Male Privilege.
The bit about... Oh, hell, I'll just link you to Commodorified's post, and you can follow the links from there.
As for myself, I am a tad torn on the idea.
See. As presented? I hate it. Categorically. It's loathsome. For all the reasons that have been mentioned above.
At the same time, I like the idea of being more open to touching and being touched.
In a situation where I am actually safe, this can be lovely and wonderful. (Witness: The massages that get traded around at birthday parties, the way I hold hands with my friends when we talk about Intense Stuff, the way I used to Sprawl About with my high school friends, etc).
However a Con full of strangers is not such a place. Especially when said strangers are pestering me for gropes. :-P
As someone who finds women beautiful/sexy/attractive/lovely/physically-desirable, I totally understand the "Mmmmm... Boooooooobiiiiiiiies" thing.
However, as a woman I also totally understand the "Get the fuck away from me, you creep(s)! For the forty-sixth time, I am not interested!" thing. Possibly better. :-P
Additionally, I am someone who is struggling to reconcile her feelings of "I don't deserve to be treated like cattle, and dammit, I shouldn't have to put up with these presumptions", with her feelings of "I like being admired, it's flattering and I feel empowered when I find myself able to deal with cat-calls and come-ons in ways that leave me feeling strong, beautiful and in-control, rather thank like a victim or a jerk".
As such, part of me really likes this idea of women being sexual agents / owning their sexual agency.
Unfortunately, that's not (by the looks of things) what's going on here.
Were a woman to come up to, say, me and offer - as in "Hey. Would you like to touch my breasts? 'Cause I'd enjoy it, if you did." - well, okay, this is me, so I'd probably want to sit down with her and pick her brain about why she made the offer in the first place and get to know her a little bit[1], but: What I'm getting at is that it wouldn't bother me.
It might shock the hell out of me, since we are - as a gender - taught on many levels not to be sexual initiators (I started out writing that as 'sexually active' - as opposed to passive - but, while it still came out accurate, it didn't come out right...), but it wouldn't squick me the way this thing is squicking me.
This is, I think, where the buttons thing comes in.
See, the idea that "red" means "stay away" and "green" means "you don't even have to ask, just go ahead", and that "no button" means "ask, but I might not say 'yes'," bothers me a great deal.
Because of this:
This particular coding system forces (stay with me, now) everyone (by which I mean every woman) to participate in the exercise, whether she wants to or not, purely by virtue of the fact that it's going on around her[2].
There is no "non-participatory" status in this game.
If you choose to not wear a button, you're presumed to be fair game for harassment, and if you choose to wear a red button, you're Participating and, as such (in a way?) tacitly supporting, the exercise as a whole.
This is a fucking problem.
A proposed alternative:
People who are wearing green buttons - regardless of sex/gender - may be
As such, a green-button-wearing individual could approach another green-button-wearing individual and say "I note that you're wearing a green button. Would you mind if I touched your ______________?" or, similarly, "I note that you're wearing a green button. Would you like to touch my _______________?"
And if the answer was "no", the rules of the game would require the asker (regardless of sex/gender, and regardless of what was being asked) to fuck the hell off.
And everyone else would be left alone.
A game where the players are specifically identified (like LARP?) is significantly better than one where the players don't have a choice in whether or not they're playing, may not know the rules, and may not even know the game is going on until someone explains why they've been getting all of this seriously unwanted and off-putting attention.
Wouldn't you agree?
- Still Pissed Off
- Amazon.
[1] Does that make me weird? Or Unenlightened? ;-)
[2] Gee. Kinda like fucking society, isn't it? :-P